sunshineuncertaintyprinciple:

cakeandrevolution:

bootyregrit:

captain-ray-assbutt:

Dear people who claim that vaccines cause autism, therefore people shouldn’t vaccinate their kids,

vaccines exist to prevent deadly illnesses. You are literally saying that endangering your child’s life is preferable to them being autistic. Never mind whether they actually do cause it or not, you’re saying that death is preferable to autism.

Congrats, you’re a piece of shit and the autistic person/people in your life deserve better.

actually vaccines exist for the profit of the pharmaceutical corporations.

vaccination and immunisation are two different things. bet ya didn’t know that because you don’t know your ass from a hole in the fucking ground.

every disease ‘cured’ by vaccination was, in reality, controlled by better living conditions, better nutrition and better hygiene.  Tell me how you think we got rid of scurvy, scarlet fever and reduced the incidences of typhus in the first world without vaccines? But how is whitey gonna spin a massive profit from that mundane shit?

well done on being a talking monkey with zero research skills, fucknuts.

It’s really rich for you to talk about not knowing your ass from a hole in the ground when you’re comparing Scurvy (a vitamin deficiency), Scarlet Fever (a bacterial infection that actually does still exist, one of my friends niece and nephew got it this year, it’s just an advanced form of Strep), and Typhus (another bacterial infection), with the VIRUSES that vaccinations are intended to prevent.

Before I start, your comparison is kinda like saying “we can treat cuts with bandaids so I don’t know why you insist on setting that broken bone”.

Let’s get a little more detailed, so you can see just how fucking wrong you are and how ignorant your little screed was.

A condition like scurvy is simply the symptoms that manifest when the human body has a deficiency in one of more nutrients, in the case of scurvy it’s vitamin C, but Vitamin A deficiency can lead to blindness and there are various other vitamins that either too much of or too little of can have deleterious effects. The treatments for these are simple, either change diet to address the imbalance or in sever cases take a supplement to treat. Also, how fucking classist of you to think that we’ve gotten rid of it when Scurvy still effects the very poor and Vitamin A deficiency still claims the lives of 670k children under 5 annually.

Bacteria are single celled organisms capable of reproducing on their own. The human immune system can deal with bacteria through white blood cells consuming and destroying the bacteria or through the immune system generating anti-bodies that bind with the receptor sites that the bacteria uses to bond with cells. We also have nifty antibiotics which can directly kill off bacteria once in the human body.

Some bacterial infections, like pertussis and tuberculosis are VERY difficult to treat through standard antibacterial therapies and without detection within days of infection can still be lethal or life altering in the damage they cause. As it takes the body about 2 weeks to generate an antibody for an infection that it hasn’t encountered before we have largely relied on vaccination (and quite successfully at that) to prevent serious cases of these bacterial infections from being able to take hold as the secondary anamnestic response time (read, production of anti-bodies that the immune system remembers from previous encounters) peaks in 1-3 days. The difference between a pertussis infection with a primary antibody generation response and that with a secondary anamnestic response can quite literally be the difference between life or death.

Once a virus is in the body though the only way to treat them is to manage the symptoms and try and boos the immune systems response. There are a handful of anti-viral cocktails but they have limited efficacy and only work on a handful of viruses. Unlike bacteria viruses depend on taking over host cells and using them to reproduce, once the virus has stripped all it can from the host cell it bursts open spreading more viruses to infect other cells repeating the process. Many viruses also directly target the immune system rendering an effective immune response impossible which is why many of the viruses which we are vaccinated against are still lethal if contracted even in medically advanced countries (Other than vaccination, treatment of smallpox is primarily supportive, such as wound care and infection control, fluid therapy, and possible ventilator assistance.). Therefore we have to rely on vaccination to give our immune systems that antibody memory that I discussed above.

Viruses reproduce at a logarithmic rate, compared to the doubling rate of bacteria, With each new generation of a bacteria the number of new bacteria is at most double the number of the previous generation, however take a virus that can produce 50 copies for each infected cell. Say you initially get infected with 5 active copies of the virus (and these numbers are small for ease of comprehension, typical infection numbers are much higher). Those 5 viruses infect 5 cells and produce 250 new viruses, those 250 viruses turn into 12,500, which turns into 625,000, so you went from 5 to over a half million in 3 generations, (5 bacteria would yield 40 bacteria in 3 generations for comparison). This is why we can’t rely on primary immune responses for viral infections, they simply aren’t fast enough. In the two weeks it takes for antibodies to form for the kind of lethal viruses that we vaccinate against the human immune system has likely already been overwhelmed. However, if we provide the immune system with the memory of the anti-bodies needed it can provide an immune response much more efficiently and deal with the virus before it becomes a major threat. By keeping people vaccinated for these viruses it also prevents them from establishing a foothold in communities and spreading, it also protects those who can’t be vaccinated (due to compromised immune systems among other reasons) from infection through herd immunity, reducing the chances that those they come into contact with could be infected reduces the chances that the immuno-compromised will come into contact with those viruses.

tl,dr: You don’t know fuck all about viruses, bacteria, nutritional deficiencies, immunology, or vaccines, and your comment showed nothing but a massive amount of haughty ignorance. How about you actually learn something about biology before you try and act like I’m the one who needs to do research.

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thingsthatarenormal:

do you ever just listen to godrevy point
and sob

every time